9a I would put Sole Proprietor or OTHER: and write in LLC. (It says if 8a is yes see instructions, but the instructions don't say much about it either.

16 - Other and fill in the blank.

FYI: You can get an EIN fastest using the online form (see link of #7723) or call it in.

The link below is the SS-4 form in pdf.

JJ - The following message I will send will be the html instructions link.

Submitted Link #1: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fss4.pdf...

In the vehicle was myself, a properly licensed driver from a far-away State; my wife who only had her passport as an ID; and our 2-year old son in his car seat.

After fixing the move permit in the window, showing the officer the title of the car, and giving him our IDs, the educational part began.

He didn't like my wife using a passport as an ID and kept asking for a driver's license or State ID. My wife does not drive and has not in over a decade. She had a State ID in Illinois a few years back, and a license in Florida 20 years ago, but that is it.

The officer wanter her SSN, which she said "I don't have it memorized" and had no other paperwork with it written down. He questioned this a dozen different ways, not buying her story but she stuck to her guns (and we do NOT have anything with the SSN written on it).

His problem? He can't verify identity using a passport! It doesn't contain an SSN nor an address, and he has NO ACCESS to the Federal system that records passport data! Neither of our names showed up in Virginia's database by name & DOB. And for some unknown reason, my wife's old but still valid Illinois ID did NOT come back by name and DOB. He was stymied because she wasn't in any computer system he had access to. (Don't be fooled by the 2-year old son. We also have 20+ year old children, so have had almost half-a-century to get "in the system".)

In the end, his suggestion was for my wife to write her SSN and address in the passport. :-) Somehow, I just don't think that is going to happen!

... Excellent information for us all, Charles. Well done!

Yesterday I was in the DMV and proposed the following scenario.

I own a computer consulting business from out of State. I travel to areas where my clients are and frequently stay for a few months at a time. Since I'm only here for a few months, then gone, I don't get a driver's license in this State. (They agreed this was correct.)

For tax purposes and the fact it is just plain cheaper for me, I usually just buy some cheap old car off of Craigslist instead of renting one, then sell it again when I leave. How hard is it for me to register that car in my business' name, an out-of-State LLC with no local presence?

I was told to just bring the form from the IRS with the FEIN and the LLC papers and an ID that matches the name of the person authorized to sign for the LLC. (This person does NOT show up in the database. The new title & registration is in the name of the LLC.) They also need an address where the vehicle will be garaged.

I said I change garaging locations every month or two, as for the next six months my territory ranges from Front Royal east to DC then north to Baltimore. The DMV person said "pick one and don't bother changing it with us".

My next question was "what proof do I need of the address?" Answer. "None. Just tell us what it is."

Make sure to pick an address NOT in city limits and the registration will just show the COUNTY where the vehicle is to be garaged.

As for the FEIN number...it is a GOOD IDEA TO GET ONE! Virginia, like many other States, can look up vehicle records by owner SSN. Any competant PI is going to have my SSN if looking for me, and it would quickly turn me up and expose my LLC name. However, since they don't know about the LLC, they don't know about the FEIN. A search by my SSN shows NOTHING!

... Comments about VA from a PI friend:

"If I'm already looking for someone - I'll have their full SSN in the dossier eventually. Sooner rather than later.

"Looking up his SSN would not find a vehicle if the vehicle is registered to the LLC, not him. If he has an FEIN for the LLC registered vehicle(s) it might not be as simple and quick to locate his vehicle information.

"Does Virginia REQUIRE an SSN or an FEIN to register vehicles?

" According to: http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/pdf/vsa14.pdf Yes. Under the Privacy Notice and Ownership Information sections they make that clear. 'Any person who refuses to supply the required information will be denied a certificate of title and or registration.'

"Directly after that sentence, is this disgusting abomination: 'Title and registration records may be disseminated in accordance with §§ 46.2-208through 46.2-214, to business, law enforcement or authorized government entities.'

"Charles is correct though when they say having his SSN will not reveal the existence of an NMLLC - or the vehicle(s) registered to it.

"It is certainly worth trying to talk the Virginia DMV clerk out of strictly enforcing this requirement. Another reader may have an effective ruse/story. But having an FEIN for a fall back plan may be the only way to go for VA resident readers."

Even the parent's birth place can be skipped if you insist hard enough (which I did). All the birth cert has is our names, and the place of birth which was a clinic.

Use your ghost address for all records. Not too bad.

I like the idea of jus soli. States that observe jus soli, according to Wikipedia include:

Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Barbados Belize Bolivia Brazil (Male Brazilian citizens must have a military service obligation.) Canada Chile(children of transient foreigners or of foreign diplomats on assignment in Chile only upon request) Colombia Dominica Dominican Republic Ecuador El Salvador Fiji Grenada Guatemala Guyana Honduras Jamaica Lesotho Malaysia Mexico Nicaragua Pakistan Panama Paraguay Peru Saint Christopher and Nevis Saint Lucia Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Trinidad and Tobago United States Uruguay Venezuela

Submitted Link #1: http://www.canaryislandspress.com/index.cfm/fa/sho...

- Click Begin Application - Identify: - LLC - Single Member (Disregarded Entity) - Banking Purposes - Authenticate: - Individual - Provide your information there.

Remember that this information will be submitted to the IRS.. and that your only exposure outside of federal authorities would be if the bank requested a copy of the EIN form. I have never encountered a bank requesting the actual form. They just ask for the EIN.

Also, it is my experience that the bank will still want your ssn if you use the method above because a single member LLC is a "disregarded entity" for federal taxation purposes.

One possible way around that would be to not disclose that it is a single member LLC.

Submitted Link #1: https://sa2.www4.irs.gov/modiein/individual/index....

Now, I'll be applying for my first U.S. Passport and see the only geographical information on it is PLACE OF BIRTH. Since I'll be using this as my primary ID, unless stopped by a policeman, where I only give him a drivers license, should I close my OH PO Boxes and replace them with 2 PO Boxes in MI again, since that would match my MI location on the Passport, keeping my OHIO presence a mystery to all except the police, auto insurance company and the OHIO BMV(Bureau of Motor Vehicles)?

... Unless there has been a recent change, your passport will show only the state where you were born, not the city or town. And almost no one pays any attention to that anyway.

1. Driver’s licenses are more easily copied and can be used to steal identity.

2. Most states sell data from driver’s licenses.

3. Passports may be required to fly domestically in the future.

4. If a teller writes your driver’s license number on a cashed check that can expose you to identity theft.

... All of the above are true, but the main reason is that a passport does not reveal your street address, city, or even state.

I will venture a guess that every state in the Union has laws similar to Colorado's, which impose a legal requirement on all professionals, including midwives, to report live births to the registrar of vital statistics.

Likewise, I'm betting that all states have laws making it a crime to neglect or refuse to report a live birth. In Colorado it's a misdemeanor.

There are good reasons for requiring that births be recorded, and the most compelling is that this is how your child's citizenship is granted. Keep in mind that if you do not register the birth of your child, it is your child who will suffer. He/she will not be able to get a driver's license or a passport, won't be allowed to vote, and will lose out on all the benefits of being a documented citizen.

While it may be ethical for you to go "off the grid" to the extent you can do so to maintain your privacy, your children do not deserve to be burdened with the frustrations and difficulties that will attend their not having a birth certificate.

Do them a favor and make sure their birth is recorded. Go have the baby in a neighboring state if you must, and simply refuse to provide address information if you like. Most states require the name of the mother and father and the name of the child, along with the time, date and place of birth, and little more, so it's hard to see what information is required that would compromise privacy to any substantial degree so long as actual residence location is concealed.

Home Birth With A Midwife.