Just wanted to share my experience with those of you who may be skeptical or even afraid to try to title your vehicle into a LLC.

I recently ordered a new LLC through Rosie--a great and very easy experience, by the way--with the sole intention of putting our vehicle into the LLC. We are in the process of becoming invisible, this was a pivotal first step with regard to making our assets less visible.

The registration was due, we had vanity plates and the address on the title was outdated. The DMV here in San Diego is notorious for making things as difficult as possible. We have spent hours there in attempts to satisfy their requests (my husband likes old, classic cars and we have restored more than one vehicle that had dropped out of their systems after a number of years of non-registration.)

So, instead, we went to AAA--I didn't even know they had DMV services there!

My husband was absolutely certain we'd get hassled. 100%. I think he went with me simply to see how long it would take before I walked out without doing anything more than paying for the registration.

Here's the good news: We were there less than thirty minutes and it was SIMPLE!!

They did not ask for identification of any sort for the LLC or for my husband and/or me, did not send someone to the parking lot to verify the VIN on our car or to verify the plates we were turning in. Two different women ended up helping me since there was one going on break and neither one even questioned my scrawl of a signature (none of that "who are you? the owner, the member, the manager, the whatever?") after putting in the LLC as the new owner.

Easy, easy, easy!

We paid the registration, gifted the car to the LLC for fair market value, changed the mailing address to yet another address that we do not live at (yet can receive mail through), turned in the vanity plates and got new plates and tags all at the same time.

Hope that helps a bit. Once again, a huge THANK YOU to JJ for all the great information. We're breathing better already.

My husband and I have been through some very negative and costly things we should never have had to experience (embezzlement, fraud, disgruntled ex employees who know where we live, people using our professional licenses without our knowledge...the past year has been a nightmare) so moving and dropping out of site has become a true necessity.

As an aside, it is true that our parents get smarter the older we get: My dad had it right years ago--he paid cash for everything, no one EVER had our phone number or home address (and he had a six foot fence around the perimeter of his two acres and we always had at least two large dogs), and he was always very, very private about things. I can certainly appreciate that now.

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(1) identify officers, Members, and/or Managers?

(2) Are there no taxes to pay on a New Mexico LLC ?

... 1) No.

... 2) No, as long as you do NOT do any business in that state.

My question is how do I maintain privacy with the 2010 census looming? I placed a mailbox at the street and was going to remove it after the census was completed, I didn't want them showing up at my door again with their "long form". Now I'm getting mail addressed to me or current resident. I have no problem with the census, in general, I just don't want mail coming to my home address between now and the census.

Thanks, and great book - HTBI. I bought this book, read it 3 times then gave it to my brother. Then went and bought another copy when he didn't return if fast enough. I re-read it and placed in my bug-out bag!

... Try doing a serach here on "census."

Car: I have a car titled in my name which I'd like to take with me to Texas; should I transfer the title to a NM LLC now, or after I move to Texas. (I do not plan to come back to the current state, ever.)

Home: in the book Jack talks about paying cash for a home but that seems impossible given (1) the expense of buying even a modest home now and (2) the need to withdraw a large amount of cash, since I've got all my money in a bank account. Anyway, I'll need a mortgage. What's the best way to apply for it, from a privacy POV? I'm still not clear after re-reading the home chapter.

Thanks a lot in advance!

... I suggest you transfer the car to an LLC before you go.

If you really insist on getting a mortgage to buy a house, then say "adios" to privacy.

Buying a house is a luxury, not a necessity. Renting is often cheaper and gives you better freedom to move on short notice.

The sticky situation came up in titling and registering my vehicle. I bought it about a month ago from a dealer in another state ('long term' temporary tag). It was sold to my LLC (primary place of business in the canaries, etc) with a U.S. mailing address in still another state. When I took it to the DMV the lady told me they could not register the vehicle in the name of the business unless the business was registered with NH. To get it registered I have to have a business office (could just use my address, but kinda defeats the point of all this).

Or,I can title the vehicle in my name first, business second. Either way, they are requiring my name be out there so it can be proved I'm not avoiding tax liability in Mass. I stated that it needs to be in the business name alone so if I wish to sell the business I am able to without additional hoops to jump through concerning the ownership of the vehicle.

So she said, yeah, go to Concord and get the business registered.

Is there anything that I'm missing here, any other route for me to take? Is there more information I need to provide for an assessment to be made?

... (I debated about posting this at all, Mike, due to no city [I temporarily added one], no html code to separate paragraphs, and no e-mail address.)

So here is my question before I spend another $350 that I don't exactly have... and keeping in mind that I could get an Indiana LLC in a business name, then title the vehicle as a business vehicle in Indiana, but I'm not positive that this will truly work for privacy purposes because I don't have a *true* ghost address in Indiana, just the PO Box and a UPS CMRA...

Is it possible to title a vehicle in a NM LLC and then register it in Indiana without divulging the owner's home address?

Keep in mind that Indiana has excise taxes on vehicle, therefore an out-of-state plate is instantly suspicious if it's parked in a driveway regularly.

Keep in mind that Indiana is at the forefront of enforcing the "Real ID" mandates of the post 911 era...

Thank you so much in advance for any guidance you or your readers can provide on this!

... I have five vehicles, each titled in a separate LLC which lists a ghost street address in Spain. Normally, Washington state also requires a WA address of the driver but my advantage is that my DL is from another state that I consider to be my domicile. Therefore, a WA address is not required.

However, even if I were a resident, and a local ghost address was required, I would still be okay with this as long as it did not appear on the registration or the title.

A great deal of success depends upon the person applying, and upon the clerk at the DMV or license agency. My first test, years ago, was with the owner of a licensing agency who thought she was the be-all and end-all of DMV knowledge. I walked out and tried another licensing agency. Better, but not great. A young supervisor in a third agency (another town) was actually able to think for herself. All cars, pickups and trailers have since been licensed at that agency.

I agree that you should get Indiana plates. That is more important than having the DL in Indiana. The only one to ever see a DL will be a cop or a car rental agency, whereas EVERYONE sees the plates.

As to your problem of a ghost address in Indiana: Can you use the address of your parents or another family member? If not, can you rent some sleazy flea-bag cabin, apartment, or hot-sheet motel room just long enough to camp there while you get the license plates?

Additional comments from Indiana drivers will be welcomed!

So, I'm considering putting a vehicle in an LLC and titling/registering it. Then I want to give it to someone else for a while. JJL mentions "Transfer the LLC" - but how is this actually done?

Perhaps the answer is really easy ("Give them the LLC paperwork") or really difficult ("Get a Lawyer"), but I can't seem to find an answer on here.

... This is an area where you must decide on your own. Much will depend on the importance of the transfer. If you were selling an LLC that owned a nearly-new Ferrari to a complete stranger and he was paying cash--that would be VERY different from just turning your car over to a son for a year or two, and then planning on getting it back.

At least in some states, if your sale involves 50 percent or more of an LLC, I've been told that the state wants you to contact them, declare the value, and pay a sales tax. This is similar to buying something in a tax-free state and taking it back (or having it sent to) your own state that does have a sales tax. The state wants you to volunteer that information and pay sales tax.

So ... make your own decision, Jay. No one else can do it for you.